What does it mean to grieve well? Hanna and psychotherapist Dana Daugherty sit together exploring this question. Not theoretically, but from inside terminal illness. This is a conversation that refuses easy comfort. Hanna speaks about the crushing weight of grief and also its trustworthiness. About yelling into the woods while a friend watches for cars. About letting go of her bicycle and weeping with her partner. About the two arrows—the unavoidable pain of loss and the avoidable suffering of getting lost in stories of unfairness.

She offers language for what’s often impossible to express: how community keeps grief from crushing us, how art transforms sorrow into something we can hold, how presence matters more than resolution. Near the end, she offers a blessing for anyone holding loss:

“I wish for you a sacred circle around your grief. One that protects you from anything that rushes in to falsely cheer you up, tempt you to minimize the magnitude of your loss, or hurry you into acceptance.”

This conversation offers depth for anyone navigating grief—whether mourning glaciers, cultures, or loved ones. It’s medicine for a time when so many bodies are suffering.